I guess the bigger you dream, the further you have to fall if you don't get it, so it can be a bit of a scary thing to be that ambitious.

  • -- Elizabeth Debicki 伊丽莎白·德比齐

我想,你的梦想越大,如果你没有实现它,你就会跌得越深,所以野心勃勃可能会有点可怕。

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I think - I think you have a conscience growing up in a loving family with a nurturing community. And I think what happens is, and that's part of the problem of being in the closet which is a very sick place. I mean it's self loathing. It's self denial. And you keep that separate.

我认为——我认为你在一个充满爱心的家庭里长大,在一个充满关爱的社区里长大。我认为发生的事情是,这是在壁橱里的问题的一部分,这是一个非常病态的地方。我是说这是自我厌恶。这是自我否定。把它们分开。

It's good to be slightly ambitious, but I believe one shouldn't be too calculative. It's good to be on the edge, but I have never followed my mind. I have always followed my heart. And it has yielded the right results.

稍微有点野心是好的,但我认为一个人不应该太精于算计。处于边缘是件好事,但我从来没有跟随过自己的想法。我一直跟随我的心。它已经产生了正确的结果。

Well, I don't know. It's long, it's longer than both of the other books put together, so it's more ambitious. I think I get under the skin of the people a lot more than in the other books.

嗯,我不知道。它很长,比其他两本书加起来还要长,所以它更有野心。我认为我比其他书更能触及人们的内心。

I think having nature be a part of people's lives helps all of us see ourselves as part of something larger.

我认为,让自然成为人们生活的一部分,有助于我们所有人把自己看作更大的事物的一部分。