I survived only a year in Berkeley, partly because I declined to sign the anticommunist loyalty oath.

我在伯克利只活了一年,部分原因是我拒绝签署反共效忠誓词。

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Life isn't meant to be easy. It's hard to take being on the top - or on the bottom. I guess I'm something of a fatalist. You have to have a sense of history, I think, to survive some of these things... Life is one crisis after another.

生活本来就不容易。处于高位或低位是很难接受的。我想我是宿命论者。我认为,你必须有历史感,才能在这些事情中生存下来……生活是一个接一个的危机。

I think there's a supreme power behind the whole thing, an intelligence. Look at all of the instincts of nature, both animals and plants, the very ingenious ways they survive. If you cut yourself, you don't have to think about it.

我认为这一切的背后有一种至高无上的力量,一种智慧。看看自然界所有的本能,包括动物和植物,它们生存的独特方式。如果你割伤了自己,你就不用想了。