The lesson of forever and ever is that knowing a man's mind ain't knowing the man.

  • -- Patrick Ness 奈斯

永远永远的教训是,了解一个人的内心并不等于了解他。

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That taught me one lesson which is that you're naive to believe that bands can change the world. Bands are very naive to think that just if their audience thinks that they can change the world, that they can. That was quite a lesson for my career, really.

这给了我一个教训,那就是你天真地认为乐队可以改变世界。乐队非常天真地认为,只要他们的观众认为他们能改变世界,他们就能。这对我的职业生涯是一个教训,真的。

A life lesson for me is, how do you muster the courage to take on a new risk? Whether it's starting up a business or taking on a new project or expedition. I think the risks that we take are all relative to the risk-taker.

对我来说,人生的一课就是,你如何鼓起勇气去承担新的风险?无论是创业还是开始一个新项目或探险。我认为我们所承担的风险都与冒险者有关。