It's rather like attending a university seminar where you are talking to a few gifted specialists who deliver a paper to an audience of their peers. That's one way of making music.

-- Gavin Bryars 布莱尔斯

这就像参加一个大学研讨会，你和一些有天赋的专家交谈，他们向他们的同龄人发表论文。这是制作音乐的一种方式。

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I talk to student-athletes. I try to get them to remember that they're not just athletes, but student-athletes. You need to get an education, keep your hands clean and try to represent the university.

我和学生运动员交谈。我试着让他们记住，他们不只是运动员，而是学生运动员。你需要接受教育，保持双手干净，努力代表学校。

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I started acting at the University of Michigan in my sophomore year.

我大二开始在密歇根大学表演。

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Specialists are people who always repeat the same mistakes.

专家总是重复同样的错误。

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