There's places where a secure fence will work, and that strategic type fencing will work. But the idea that people can easily just stand up and say 'let's just build a fence' and be done with it and wipe our hands, and it's going to secure the border, that's not reality.

在一些地方，安全的栅栏会起作用，这种战略性的栅栏也会起作用。但是，人们可以很容易地站起来说，‘我们就建个篱笆吧’，然后就把它搞定，擦擦手，它就能保卫边境，这种想法是不现实的。